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Apple v. Samsung: Juror says both sides' lawyers were persuasive
What appears not to have moved the jurors much were the high-priced experts paid to testify.
The Apple v. Samsung patent dispute not only pitted two of the top consumer electronics companies against each other, but the case was also a showdown between some of the country's best patent litigators.
Leading the charge for Apple was Harold McElhinny of the law firm Morrison Foerster. Samsung's courtroom gladiator was Charles Verhoeven, a lawyer with the firm Quinn Emanuel
Samsung's attorneys got their noses bloodied on Friday when a nine-person jury returned a verdict that Samsung had infringed on most of Apple's patent claims and found that Apple did not infringe on any of Samsung's. Apple filed a suit last year accusing Samsung of infringing some of the design and technology patents involved with the iPhone and iPad. Samsung countered sued and the jury was tasked with deciding both companies' claims.
If Samsung suffered a bruising defeat -- one that the company is very likely to appeal -- it should blame its attorneys, says Manuel Ilagan, one of the jurors. In an exclusive interview with CNET yesterday, Ilagan said he found the attorneys representing both sides to be very persuasive.
"[The jury] didn't talk about the lawyers," Ilagan said, "but my impression was that [Apple's No. 2 attorney] Bill Lee and McElhinny were pretty good in their presentation and questioning of the witnesses. And on the other side there was Verhoeven and [Samsung No. 2 attorney Bill] Price was in my opinion also very good. Price had a sense of humor. He was having back and forth with some of the witnesses."
But the paid experts that testified for both sides apparently didn't do much to persuade the jurors one way or the other. Apple and Samsung both paid experts to testify on their behalf to support their claims or to dispute the opponent's experts.
In an interview with the San Jose Mercury News, Velvin Hogan, the jury's foreman told the paper: "You can pay people to say what you want them to say."
CNET News Apple
Apple v. Samsung: Juror says both sides' lawyers were persuasive
What appears not to have moved the jurors much were the high-priced experts paid to testify.
by Greg Sandoval August 26, 2012 6:48 AM PDT
Lawyers for both Apple and Samsung made good arguments, says one of the jurors but added that Apple just had the stronger case.
(Credit: Vicki Behringer)
The Apple v. Samsung patent dispute not only pitted two of the top consumer electronics companies against each other, but the case was also a showdown between some of the country's best patent litigators.
Leading the charge for Apple was Harold McElhinny of the law firm Morrison Foerster. Samsung's courtroom gladiator was Charles Verhoeven, a lawyer with the firm Quinn Emanuel.
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Samsung's attorneys got their noses bloodied on Friday when a nine-person jury returned a verdict that Samsung had infringed on most of Apple's patent claims and found that Apple did not infringe on any of Samsung's. Apple filed a suit last year accusing Samsung of infringing some of the design and technology patents involved with the iPhone and iPad. Samsung countered sued and the jury was tasked with deciding both companies' claims.
If Samsung suffered a bruising defeat -- one that the company is very likely to appeal -- it should blame its attorneys, says Manuel Ilagan, one of the jurors. In an exclusive interview with CNET yesterday, Ilagan said he found the attorneys representing both sides to be very persuasive.
"[The jury] didn't talk about the lawyers," Ilagan said, "but my impression was that [Apple's No. 2 attorney] Bill Lee and McElhinny were pretty good in their presentation and questioning of the witnesses. And on the other side there was Verhoeven and [Samsung No. 2 attorney Bill] Price was in my opinion also very good. Price had a sense of humor. He was having back and forth with some of the witnesses."
But the paid experts that testified for both sides apparently didn't do much to persuade the jurors one way or the other. Apple and Samsung both paid experts to testify on their behalf to support their claims or to dispute the opponent's experts.
In an interview with the San Jose Mercury News, Velvin Hogan, the jury's foreman told the paper: "You can pay people to say what you want them to say."
What appears not to have moved the jurors much were the high-priced experts paid to testify.
The Apple v. Samsung patent dispute not only pitted two of the top consumer electronics companies against each other, but the case was also a showdown between some of the country's best patent litigators.
Leading the charge for Apple was Harold McElhinny of the law firm Morrison Foerster. Samsung's courtroom gladiator was Charles Verhoeven, a lawyer with the firm Quinn Emanuel
Samsung's attorneys got their noses bloodied on Friday when a nine-person jury returned a verdict that Samsung had infringed on most of Apple's patent claims and found that Apple did not infringe on any of Samsung's. Apple filed a suit last year accusing Samsung of infringing some of the design and technology patents involved with the iPhone and iPad. Samsung countered sued and the jury was tasked with deciding both companies' claims.
If Samsung suffered a bruising defeat -- one that the company is very likely to appeal -- it should blame its attorneys, says Manuel Ilagan, one of the jurors. In an exclusive interview with CNET yesterday, Ilagan said he found the attorneys representing both sides to be very persuasive.
"[The jury] didn't talk about the lawyers," Ilagan said, "but my impression was that [Apple's No. 2 attorney] Bill Lee and McElhinny were pretty good in their presentation and questioning of the witnesses. And on the other side there was Verhoeven and [Samsung No. 2 attorney Bill] Price was in my opinion also very good. Price had a sense of humor. He was having back and forth with some of the witnesses."
But the paid experts that testified for both sides apparently didn't do much to persuade the jurors one way or the other. Apple and Samsung both paid experts to testify on their behalf to support their claims or to dispute the opponent's experts.
In an interview with the San Jose Mercury News, Velvin Hogan, the jury's foreman told the paper: "You can pay people to say what you want them to say."
CNET News Apple
Apple v. Samsung: Juror says both sides' lawyers were persuasive
What appears not to have moved the jurors much were the high-priced experts paid to testify.
by Greg Sandoval August 26, 2012 6:48 AM PDT
Lawyers for both Apple and Samsung made good arguments, says one of the jurors but added that Apple just had the stronger case.
(Credit: Vicki Behringer)
The Apple v. Samsung patent dispute not only pitted two of the top consumer electronics companies against each other, but the case was also a showdown between some of the country's best patent litigators.
Leading the charge for Apple was Harold McElhinny of the law firm Morrison Foerster. Samsung's courtroom gladiator was Charles Verhoeven, a lawyer with the firm Quinn Emanuel.
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Samsung: Verdict is 'loss for American consumer'
Samsung defeat a 'back to the drawing board' moment
Apple wins big in Samsung patent battle: Did you call it? (poll)
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Samsung's attorneys got their noses bloodied on Friday when a nine-person jury returned a verdict that Samsung had infringed on most of Apple's patent claims and found that Apple did not infringe on any of Samsung's. Apple filed a suit last year accusing Samsung of infringing some of the design and technology patents involved with the iPhone and iPad. Samsung countered sued and the jury was tasked with deciding both companies' claims.
If Samsung suffered a bruising defeat -- one that the company is very likely to appeal -- it should blame its attorneys, says Manuel Ilagan, one of the jurors. In an exclusive interview with CNET yesterday, Ilagan said he found the attorneys representing both sides to be very persuasive.
"[The jury] didn't talk about the lawyers," Ilagan said, "but my impression was that [Apple's No. 2 attorney] Bill Lee and McElhinny were pretty good in their presentation and questioning of the witnesses. And on the other side there was Verhoeven and [Samsung No. 2 attorney Bill] Price was in my opinion also very good. Price had a sense of humor. He was having back and forth with some of the witnesses."
But the paid experts that testified for both sides apparently didn't do much to persuade the jurors one way or the other. Apple and Samsung both paid experts to testify on their behalf to support their claims or to dispute the opponent's experts.
In an interview with the San Jose Mercury News, Velvin Hogan, the jury's foreman told the paper: "You can pay people to say what you want them to say."
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